Lewis is right, conservatives are a wild and wooly bunch. I don’t agree with him that we are not conservative enough.

My views are essentially Libertarian, but I am realist enough to recognize that a true Libertarian state cannot exist on its own.

To have a Free Market economy, we would have to have a true free market, a global one. We don’t have one of those and to act like we do is economic suicide.

There are other things to get into, but the gist of it is this:

It’s the two parties that have screwed us up. Neither side truly holds to the ideals they feed to the American public. They are, for the most part, only concerned about keeping themselves in power. They feel no responsibility to their electorate or to any moral compus.

Then again, I think the country’s screwed up because we haven’t been conservative *enough*. But then you start spiraling off into the various definitions of “conservative” and socons vs. fiscal cons vs. neocons vs. paleocons vs. libertarians, and I’d much rather think about Bricu on a Horde deathknight kthx.

Although your point about Lieberman is a good one. By speaking at the RNC, he’s practically signed his political death warrant on that side of the aisle. It’s a gutsy move that’s either “I’ve got nothing to lose” or “screw you hippies, this is for running Ned Lamont against me,” I can’t figure out which. If Lieberman is not the VP nominee, it would not surprise me one bit to see him get a high position in a McCain administration.

PS Marty:
ONE OF US
ONE OF US

By that logic, there’s only the two most extreme positions (on each side), and then there’s middle of the road.

There’s nothing wrong in acknowledging that somebody (including oneself) is not “average.” Just because I think of myself as more of a leftist than Obama, it doesn’t follow that it is all I need to say that Obama is “middle of the road.” I think he is progressive. He is not the most progressive, he is certainly not as progressive as I’d like, but he -is- progressive.

What frustrates me about this changing of the goalposts is that it allows people to say “Well, the country’s all screwed up, but it’s not because of conservative mistakes. After all, one can hardly call Bush a conservative.” Conservatives have been overwhelmingly cheering for the man all along. If you take the good, you gotta take the bad.

And I am really really hoping McCain picks Lieberman. I really do. I’m sure he’s begging for it, he knows he’s gonna get nothing from Dems once they don’t need his one vote to have a majority.

However, the whole liberman rumbling is pure posturing. McCain has spent so much time gathering his base that this choice, or ridge, would be the kiss of death. Ridge, if I remebed right, canny take communion in his parish anymore. Opus dei catholics wouldn’t vote for him either.

If mccain. Picks liberman, I’ll play the first month of Wrath on a horde side dk.

**I meant to say mostly posturing, however i cant scroll back qnd esit it. The two are friends and have a few key points in common. That being said, if liberman is a liberal, I’m karl Marx, or castro.

All it really shows is how the spectrum has shifted in the last 40 years.

This is how people view our system. This does not mean this perspective is accurate.

Isolationism is not going to serve us well at all. World War I and II should have taught us that.